Friday, The Royal Gazette talked to the two party leaders about their expectations for the coming session. The interview with Opposition Leader Mr.

Frederick Wade appeared yesterday. Today, the Gazette runs its interview with Premier the Hon. Sir John Swan.

*** Bermudians, not Government, must stop crime, says Premier the Hon. Sir John Swan.

The Premier said the Country should not look to Friday's Speech from the Throne for solutions to increased violence on the Island.

"I don't think anybody has any pet solutions,'' he said.

Police would be reinforced in the area of drug enforcement, but "that's a matter of policing policy, and where you deploy your manpower'', Sir John said.

What Bermuda required was "a partnership between law enforcement and the public as a whole''.

Sir John deplored the early morning shooting on Sunday at The Spinning Wheel Night Club.

For someone to enter a public place, knowing they would be identified, and fire five shots, "there was something fundamentally wrong'', Sir John said.

"If it happened there in a public place, it gives us some idea of what risk we all have.'' And "if that had happened to an American tourist, that would be the headline across America,'' the Premier said. "If you think you've got unemployment now -- what's taking place now is going to effect everybody without exception.'' Once unique, "now with the robberies and attacks on tourists we've become very similar to other locations'', the Premier said.

Premier looks to Parliament opening But Sir John noted that "even if you had an increase in Police, that incident probably still would have happened''.

The community was calling for harsher penalties for offenders, but "there are stiff penalties already on the books'', he said.

"I think the community has to start realising the fact that it can affect their children, their sons and their daughters. It goes right back to family values -- what values you put in your children and what responsibility you take for your children.'' Bermuda had enjoyed "a lot of prosperity, but we seem to have lost the inner substance of ourselves''.

Sir John said he was referring to only a minority of Bermudians, but said many were "clouded by materialism'' and needed to change their attitudes.

Bermudians, black and white, had to care about each other, and worry about others falling through the cracks. And developers had to start building at the north end of Hamilton, not just where they were accustomed to building.

Too many people were giving up, and "once we reach a critical mass of giving up, then the whole thing starts to unwind''.

Sir John chastised the Progressive Labour Party for not understanding that.

Opposition Leader Mr. Frederick Wade "makes noises'', but "he does not come up with any constructive ideas'', he said.

The PLP had not put out any papers stating what they would do about the Island's problems, he said.

"In being all things to all people they end up being nothing to the people that they expect to vote for them.'' The focus when the House resumed would be taking over the American Bases.

Upgrading the school system would be another priority, he said.

And race relations would be addressed. There would be legislation, but that was not a "panacea'', he said. "I think that somehow or other we've got to realise that from the top to the bottom we depend on each other.'' Sir John, who could not get Independence referendum legislation through the House in the last session, is expected to bring a new referendum bill in the coming session.

Hinting at why he personally favours Independence for Bermuda, Sir John said that when a Country is on its own, "we sink or swim together''.

The British Government had the ultimate responsibility under Bermuda's Constitution and served as "a security blanket'', the Premier said.

Government was spending a lot of time looking at ways to increase employment, Sir John said.

Bermuda could become "a mini Switzerland'', particularly in the area of financial services and storage of technology, he said.

Asked whether he plans to lead the United Bermuda Party into the next general election, the Premier said "my job is to do the job as long as I'm here''. He was not grooming a successor, because that did not happen in a democracy.